Today has not been a good for me after Google updated their webmastertools blog post with this :
Update on August 11, 2009: [ If you have language or country specific feedback on our new system's search results, we're happy to hear from you. It's a little more difficult to obtain these results from the sandbox URL, though, because you'll need manually alter the query parameters. You can change these two values appropriately: hl = language gl = country code Examples: German language in Germany: &hl=de&gl=de http://www2.sandbox.google.com/search?hl=de&gl=de&q=alle+meine+entchen Spanish language in Mexico: &hl=es&gl=mx http://www2.sandbox.google.com/search?hl=es&gl=mx&q=de+colores And please don't forget to add the word "caffeine" in the feedback text box.
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I thought I would test it on “UK SEO” something I have ranked for forever 
http://www2.sandbox.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=uk&q=uk+seo 
But it gets a little bit better I guess when I tested ES, US, DE … from Spain : 
From the US : 
from Germany : 
So if I’m getting this right, if you’re in any country and Looking for a UK SEO you can find me but if you are in my Core Marketplace, the country I live and work, the country that My TLD is from, the country my IP is from, and when looking for a UK Seo you can’t find me… Google Caffeine more Google Beered Up Dave Naylor Born and Bred UK SEO
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Aye it’s all over the place at the moment. Seen your sitelinks go some time ago so I guess the gap is getting smaller but this post should help a bit too :p
You can just report everybody else anyways (well nearly everybody)
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Thanks for putting this together complete with screenshots from varied countries. It is very useful to see how Google Caffeine is serving results pages. It will be interesting to see what the end up enabling in production.
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That was quick, Matt Cutts must have seen your post and gone in for a good hand job. I’m seeing you top when I get there.
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Children’s Room’s been all ove rthe place today – for a while we had several overseas orders but no UK ones – and Allkids visitor levels are down today – fingers crossed they get it fixed soon
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It seems your post did the trick! ;-p
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Lol thats one way to get reinclusion into the index! I’ve been using http://www.goobinghoo.com to compare the results side by side. Seeing you on page 1 SERP 1today.
Do you guys think this is a bug in caffeine that was recently fixed? or a manual fix just for David?
I’ve also written up an SEO overview and comparison for caffeine @ http://bit.ly/1F8R1t
Cheers for the screenshots mate.
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In all honesty, why do you care if you rank for “UK SEO” or not? Its a poor term, has no commercial intent and has no search volume.
I’m seeing a lot of fools picking some totally random search term, deliberately ranking for it then declaring themselves masters of the universe when they do so. Dave this is not aimed at you, I’m seeing people doing it with terms a million times worse than the one you are (or were) ranking for. Ffs, someone is claming victory for ranking for “SEO World expert”. Yeah, with a “not enough data” in Google Adwords, I’m sure that sends a whole lot of qualified leads…….
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Phil
You’re really missing the point. The search term isn’t relevant. The fact that dave has had established rankings for it is. Then the fact that there is significant variance from that known ranking illustrates thepoint that Google appears to be screwing up atthe moment. Matt Cutts video response onthe UK SERPs pollution seems to indicate that he doesn’t seem to grasp what the issue is
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@phil lol.. I’m not bothered about the ranking, it’s just a ranking that I can bench mark stuff against, I Have one in images that I use as well
Dave
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You don’t seem to be top in non-ceffeine google for UK SEO at the moment either.
I’ve been trying some searches because I’ve noticed that, on top of irrelevant US .coms, google has started adding maps of irrelevant places in the USA next to some UK-only companies in the results:
http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/usa-maps-uk-results/ - 12
Your IP is resolving to a US location, phoenix, Arizona via Global Crossing (for me at least, also checked visual route and got the same)
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Showing as US for me too, which is strange, as I am sure Dave knows where his website is hosted.
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Great – looks like the new update will have geotargeting that’s as good as what they currently have!
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From here (Portugal) it looks like you’re in the US also:
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@Simon, no I’m not missing the point. Serps are fluid, as time passes other companies move up and down.
The other company in question have 30,000 links. I could see the point in complaining if you are outranked by a new site on a free host with 12 links, but why SHOULDN’T this other company rank for “UK SEO”?
Also, Hobo-web have a strong backlink profile and “uk seo” near the start of their page title – again, why shouldn’t they rank above this site either? How are Google “screwing up” by deciding another site would be a better fit for users searching for that term? Does Dave have a divine right to rank for this term? lol
“established ranking” means absolutely nothing. If someone else link builds, or better optimises their page than it was previously, they are going to rank – and quite rightly so.
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I’d be happy with number 2 on that serp lol
Looking at the cafiene results (I thought I saw them tonigh tin the UK live serps (!) i’m a bit shocked how easy it is to get a spot at the top table. The only reason I know this is I have a few sies I have taken a VERY narrow linkbuilding tactic with with VERY limited kind of sites and they are doing remarkably well in the new serp – and they all have one thing in common (which I am not telling) and it’s so simple to put most of the linkbuilding industry for smaller less competitive niches out of business.
I remember having a pagerank 7, 25 page site with a totally manufactured link profile that was obvious as the nose on my face and I have a big nose and I ranked no3 for SEO after six months. When I ranked no3 for seo the leads I got were pish (can I say that?)
I removed all those links cause I thought they were embarrassing, wrote a book about seo, spent 2 years adding 600 pages to my site and I now get 1000 times more traffic and a small brand in my local space to play with but I rank about 70 for seo lol
I honestly dont care that much about rankings for Hobo that much these days cause I can afford (at the mo) not to – and it’s why I f*&^ about with my site so much and I dont use unrelated links from client sites (which are all are pure gold links to Google). What I do care about is building my sites authority over the next couple of years (and my subscriber count) so I can do what I want with it.
There’s only one term I want I think i have found out a way to get it, but my link profile isn’t muddy enough so why introduce links like that to the game when others could just come in after me and do the same (blog post coming about that on Friday). Having one trophy term for seo is cool, like Dave has here, and I want one again, because when you talk to clients you can say “look what i can do”.
One day (if it’s not arrived) companies are going to be looking for people who make their site at least look like a brand online
, not just get to the top for a narrow term with limited albeit attractive traffic. When that day comes I want to have at least a bit of practice at it.I’ll add – if I start going for terms again, I’ll stop blogging. I’m torn every day wether to blog or linkbuild – why fly above the radar and ask for attention when you are linkbuilding? It’s self defeating.
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Thank you. It is very useful to see how Google Caffeine is serving results pages. It will be interesting to see what the end up enabling in production.
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@hobo, to me that is a bit of a contradiction to say if you are going to link build you will stop blogging? Surely if you write good blog posts then they will accumulate links. Your blog is on your root domain so they are all helping.
If you aren’t going to put links in clients sites footers like every other ranking seo company is doing (I don’t think anyone can show me a top 10 company not doing this, but haven’t checked it – feel free to post otherwise if someone disagrees). Blog posts are better links because if someone wants to replicate your backlink profile, and I have linked to one of your blog posts then that is a link right there that cannot be copied.
I’ve lost count of the times I’ve ate someone elses lunch purely because they buy links only, and have no natural links. I buy every single link they have, and do maybe a single link bait, then a handful of nepotistic links. And by handful I mean 100 or so
Throw in an exact match domain and its game over for the competition. - 20
@Lisbon Apartments and Mr Bathroom Furniture,
You sure both have funny names! I guess your parents had a sense of humour when they filled your birth certificates in. Oh and you do realise keyword spamming the name field on this blog is pointless right? (hint – your name field is not the anchor text, your url is)
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At Phil, sure, blogging is building links + more. You’re right on a numer of fronts. I’m getting better links than I ever had but sometimes I miss the more direct way of manipulating a network of links for my own site. I am a contradiction. Blogging + SEO makes you a nut. Thanks for the therapy lols
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Thanks for putting this together complete with screenshots from varied countries. It is very useful to see how Google is serving results pages. It will be interesting to see what the end up enabling in production.
Hi Dave,
You can compare your ranking using this tool
http://www.sembiencecorporate.com/labs/google-caffeine-ranking/
By default it compares your UK google ranking with UK google caffeine ranking.
Andrew