We’ve all kind of noticed that retweets of our articles seem to have dropped off lately. And yet we’re still writing blindingly incisive humourous and topical content with no discernable drop in daily traffic. Sometimes.

Odd.

On one level it hardly matters, but there’s no denying that the Tweetmeme counter up there adds something to the way people respond to a post. If you go somewhere and the first thing you see is a big notice that this post has been retweeted  129 times then you immediately assume that it has to be pretty interesting and will dive into the post. It’s one of the reasons we don’t generally recommend using the tweetmeme counter on commercial properties – because nothing says “fail” more than post after post with 0 tweets, fair or not.

Now by all evidence, Twitter is still the office-waste-of-time du jour, so we started to poke around in the undergrowth to figure out what was behind this drop. Dave won’t give me his Twitter password (for some reason) so I’m using my own paltry feed for this example but it should illustrate the problem…

Twitter FeedTwitter Retweets Feature

So the ‘retweet this to your followers’ feature that Twitter introduced a month or two ago disconnects the tweets from the stats. We don’t know why this is, but the favourite explanation is that it is down to the loss of the @ symbol – without that, the retweet count is somehow getting lost. In other words Tweetmeme is only counting retweets done in the old fashioned “@davenaylor” way and ignoring the crazy new-fangled “retweet this” button which all the pop kids are using.

Similarly, we’re divided as to who to blame. Twitter have changed part of their formula when they introduced this feature so it’s half their fault, but shouldn’t Tweetmeme be able to access the right data through the API?

Either way, we know for sure that we get more retweets than are showing up up there so we either have to look for an alternative to Tweetmeme or hope that Twitter get their shit together  (we don’t hold out much hope for Twitter – the exploit we found in August last year was still working recntly.)  Anyone else seeing this problem?

(P.S. Dave was going to write this post but his rage got the better of him so we dragged him away from the keyboard)

paul carpenter

10 Comments

  • Jamie Edwards | http://www.jmedwards.net

    10th March 2010 @ 17:01

  • 2

    You didn’t take my advice to turn off Twitter then. Tut.

    Carla Marshall | http://www.sorbetdigital.com

    10th March 2010 @ 17:02

  • 3

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  • 4

    This is really an eye-opener. I never thought about this. I thought everything coincides but in truth, it is not the case. I hope they really “get their shit together” and give us correct information.

    Andrew@BloggingGuide | http://www.webuildyourblog.com

    11th March 2010 @ 09:07

  • 5

    Tweetdeck doesnt pick up all your retweets either

    Simon Wharton | http://blog.pushon.co.uk

    11th March 2010 @ 09:19

  • 6

    Give topsy a try, I find it can handle canonical URLs and redirects better – things that seem to trip up other services.

    Andy Beard | http://andybeard.eu

    11th March 2010 @ 16:50

  • 7

    I don’t believe about this

    Chris Peterson | http://www.bloggingwithchris.com/

    12th March 2010 @ 11:47

  • 8

    well spotted MR C

    Dan Horton SEO | http://www.danhorton.co.uk

    12th March 2010 @ 21:03

  • 9

    Am I missing the point here? The tweets you show as examples of tweets that don’t appear in the “your tweets, retweeted” column aren’t retweets, they’re merely mentions, if tweetmeme counts those as retweets then any stats it produces would be wrong anyway.

    It seems more likely to me that tweetmeme looks for “RT” in the text of a tweet in order to determine whether it’s a retweet or not, hence it can’t measure the new style retweets, it does,however, seem a bit lame that they can’t collect data on new style retweets via the API and old style via whatever method they currently use and just combine the two for an accurate retweet count.

    Matt | http://twitter.com/siliconedgeuk

    21st March 2010 @ 09:10

  • 10

    How about turning to Google buzz ?

    Shekhar Sahu | http://www.whitehatandroid.com

    22nd March 2010 @ 13:57

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