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Paid Links the debate that just will not Go away

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Well not in my office anyway, so Google say Paid Links to influence search are evil and of course they would, they’re a search engine that’s sells links via JS, don’t we can’t really take a leaf out of google book, because the main traffic pages are robots.txt’d out.. oh the dilemma.

so how can you buy links and not get caught, well first off you could test the links..

but for a site / page that doesn’t matter if page move up by another link for the master site or better ask for the link to be change to master site, again if site moves down pass that link to a competitor.. yer i know it’s dirty and underhand but I still have site pinned down because a competitor buy me links.. cheers, but remember what goes around comes around..

but I guess the really answer is when buying link make dam sure Google has to ask it’s self what was the intent and are we 60% sure it was purchased for improving search rankings.

here is something that happened just recently, a Guy rang me up and said his site had lost all traffic from Google, and he hadn’t used any SEO’s and did his own PPC, in fact his site had no spam on it and was pretty under optimised.

Before I jumped in I asked the guy how he markets his website, this took me by surprise the Guy used Hitwise and monitored his competitors, and basically used PPC to clone those sites keywords, One day he found that one of his competitors was getting quite a bit of upstream traffic from a Site, so he went there and found to his surprise that the competitor didn’t advertise on the site, but he did have a text link, so he emailed the site and bought his link right next to the competitor, and so it went on and on every time he saw upstream data he went and purchased the same has his competitors.

Until a few days ago when he rang me.. at first I joked and said Google had banned him because they wanted all his advertising spend.. guess what that’s what he thought too .. I told him that wasn’t the case and he had been hit for link buying and he should stop and ask Googles forgiveness.

At the moment he is testing YPN and ADcenter and looking at stopping using Google, I think the guy has balls he actually wants to see if he can survive without Google. Me I’m going to help the Dude for free just so I get the data ..

what you reckon fail or succeed, btw he had his best day ever today thankyou stumble upon :)

12 Comments

  • SEMSpot 2157 days ago

    http://www.semspot.com

    I personally feel it is a bad move on his part to forget about google and move forward. Google has like 51% of the search market right now over Yahoo, MSN, Ask and others. How can someone think to just say screw that search market, I’ll use the smaller guys. Depending on the product/service maybe he could survive, however I think it is in his best interest to try and get included back into google for that extra traffic. If your helping him out with some of the optimization that is all he might need. If not, I will be glad to give you a hand as well Dave with some of the optimization.

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  • Dave Dugdale 2157 days ago

    http://www.rentvine.com/blog/

    If he can afford HitWise than his site must do very well and losing Google must be really hurting him, he should ask the Google God for forgiveness.

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  • Terry Howard 2157 days ago

    http://www.terryhoward.net/

    I’m still not understanding Google’s approach here. According to their policy they should ban every person with a Yahoo directory listing, the only reason anyone buys those is for the Google backlink credit. In reality they are deeming some paid links as “bad” and others as “okay”, without applying any true consistency to the thought process. They are totally within their rights to do that of course, but I hope they realize that makes them sort of a dick, and shows us they simply can’t cut it with their almighty algorithm alone.

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  • Jeremy Luebke 2157 days ago

    Any site with a real business model can survive without Google. As long as he has a conversion goal that makes enough profit to be able to make a living off PPC, then organic traffic is nothing more than a bonus. I look at the internet like old school mail order companies. Either you advertise effectively that generates proper profit or you die.

    I commend the guy for unhooking the Google I.V..

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  • doolally 2157 days ago

    http://www.doolally.net

    One day he found that one of his competitors was getting quite a bit of upstream traffic from a Site, so he went there and found to his surprise that the competitor didn’t advertise on the site, but he did have a text link, so he emailed the site and bought his link right next to the competitor, and so it went on and on every time he saw upstream data he went and purchased the same has his competitors.

    So he was buying the links for direct traffic, not for rankings and if he’s competitor was getting a lot of traffic off their links they must have been links on relevant sites?

    So what has this guy done wrong?

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  • Igor The Troll 2156 days ago

    Why pay when you can get it for free!
    My three day old Website is getting 50 hits a day…

    Dave, am I marketable or what?
    Maybe I should register seoigor.com

    Free love is best!
    Igor The Troll

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  • Igor The Troll 2156 days ago

    Dave we had a shaved pussy, how about a fat dog?
    http://www.igorthetroll.com/fat_dog.jpg

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  • Stiphen 2156 days ago

    “and said Google had banned him becaus” so when you say banned do you mean out of the index for just paid links or do you mean dropped in rankings, penalty?

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  • [...] Funny story. Google banned this guy for buying links so instead of owning up and asking for absolution he decides he doesn’t need Google. So he starts buying sponsored ads – paying for links! I’m anxious to see how he does. [...]

  • New Orleans SEO 2156 days ago

    http://www.goatsmilktavern.com

    As Stiphen said, what exactly is the penalty for having paid links. And Google had said they want everyone to report paid links, is there a penalty if you come clean from the start? Paid links are a major part of how the SEO game works, that’s why you pay so much for SEO. It is gonna make it harder to get links from reputable sites because the only reason people care about pagerank is when they get high enough, you can start to sell links.

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  • [...] Paid Links the debate that just will not Go away [...]

  • Funny Things 1756 days ago

    http://www.whatcracksmeup.com

    Well i should go buy a pile of links for my competitors lol hope googles kicks their asses! Haha good post.

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