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Google Places – Hacked, Flawed Or Exploit?

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In these hard economic times, small businesses need all the help they can get, unfortunately a mistake made with Google Places is having a massive negative impact on The Old Deanery.

Disclosure: The owners of The Old Deanery happen to be good friends with David Naylor, and also happen to be my parents!!!

Sometime in late January The Old Deanery started getting phone calls from people in Bradford saying they were nearby and wanted to come for lunch, this was met with a bit of confusion as The Old Deanery is about 45 minutes away in Ripon! They got a second call last night saying they were nearby in Bradford and wanted to come for a meal – mentioning they had seen us on Google Maps. At this point I decided to check it out, the results were not good…

This is the Google.co.uk SERPS for “hotels in ripon” a term The Old Deanery is #1 for in the organics, and until recently was #1 in the local listings. (Please click to enlarge)

As you can see they currently don’t appear in the local listings, even if you click through to look for more local listings. So next I decided to try and find the place page for the Old Deanery, then I discovered the problem…

As you can see in the image, the address says it is in West Yorkshire, when in fact Ripon is in North Yorkshire and if you look at the map on the right you can see that it is locating it on Minster Drive in Bradford, instead of Minster Road in Ripon and then if you look at streetview you can see that there is just a group of houses, no sign of a Cathedral or a hotel in sight! My first instinct was that my mum had logged in and changed the address by mistake, but after checking both my login and her login I found that neither was the case.

Secondly I checked through all the review sites to see if any of them had the wrong address, but they all had the correct address, although in many cases they didn’t bother to include the county in the address.

This, along with a suspicious looking 1 star review (that’s a topic for another blog post), is having a big effect on business. Check out the impressions and clicks on the Google Places Dashboard, bear in mind the new impressions are for the wrong location and some people will pick up on that, those that don’t may click through, but they still won’t book as it’s not in Bradford!

For the first time since they started up they are not fully booked for Valentines day – hopefully this will change over the week – but I’ve no doubt that this problem has had a huge effect on business. <Sales_Pitch>By the way, if you’re looking for somewhere nice to take your partner and you live in or near North Yorkshire, you won’t be disappointed if you choose The Old Deanery – 74 people on Tripadvisor can’t be wrong.</Sales_Pitch>

I reported it last night, so hopefully Google will sort it out soon, but I’m still unsure as to why this has happened. Either:

1. Google made a mistake, I’m not sure how, perhaps they indexed the wrong address off some other website.
2. Google has been hacked and someone has changed it (again this is also unlikely that someone would hack Google and just change the address of The Old Deanery instead of doing something on a much larger scale).
3. Someone else has been able to create an owner verified listing and has changed the address – this seems plausible, as both myself and my mum appear to be owners of The Old Deanery on separate logins.

If it was Google’s mistake, then they definitely need to sort that out, and if it was a competitor changing the address, then Google really need to look at their verification procedures, at the moment it doesn’t seem that the procedures they have in place are enough. More so now that they are pushing maps to be increasingly important and encouraging businesses to advertise – they really do have SME’s by the balls at the moment, so it’s important they protect them from this kind of problem.

Just noticed whilst writing this, I’ve actually got two place pages for the same business, one under my logon and one under my mum’s – both of which have the correct address, although it appeared to be showing my listing instead of my mum’s (I could tell as they had a different title, mine is “The Old Deanery Hotel & Restaurant” and my mum’s is “The Old Deanery”). As you can see both have the correct address (neither say West Yorkshire).

My listing:

My mum’s listing:

So any ideas anyone? Thomson Local were recently in touch, is there a chance that this could have caused a problem (if their database feeds into Google)?

Update: As Mark has kindly pointed out below, it isn’t Thomson Local as they have the correct address, but Jon who commented below has found a site citing the address as West Yorkshire.

11 Comments

  • Rasmus 836 days ago

    http://seoanalyst.dk

    I have seen examples just like this on several listings. Google scrapes different database feeds and sometimes the show content that is extreemly outdated or simply wrong. A search for bankruptcy or similar searches shows several listings – I am pretty sure noone writes that on their place page.

    There is probably some database that shows the wrong address…. somewhere

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  • Jon 836 days ago

    Ok the “1 Lonely Comment” got me.

    http://www.ukholidayplaces.co.uk/Hotel/West-Yorkshire/TheOldDeanery_9173682.html

    Listed as West Yorkshire. Doubt that had any influence though but maybe. Let us know what Google do about it and how traffic picks up.

    Jon

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    • David Whitehouse 836 days ago

      Jon you genius!

      I didn’t see that one when I looked. I’ll contact them and get them to change it.

      Cheers,

      David

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      • Jon 836 days ago

        http://www.seoconsult.com/

        If it does turn out to be that then that’s pretty terrifying! 10 good sources say North Yorkshire and one says West Yorkshire and Google chooses the latter. Eek.

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        • David Whitehouse 836 days ago

          Yeah pretty worrying

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  • matt 836 days ago

    http://seorankbuilder.co.uk

    Hi

    I list a lot of Google Places ads for clients have found the whole system is a mess, one theory could be hacking, for example a competitor could get inand change the address or even worse the phone number or as you say it could just be a data base issue.
    On the up side not that it affects this particular case,in the US people have reprted for new listings that verification is now by postcar rather than phone, whether this will be rolled out everywhere is yet to be seen.
    Anyway hope you get your mums listing sorted out soon.

    Matt

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  • thomsonlocal.com 836 days ago

    http://www.thomsonlocal.com

    Hello David,

    As you may be aware, thomsonlocal.com is the prefered supplier for local business listings on Google Maps.

    I have checked the contact data we hold on The Old Deanery and can confirm that we list the address as North Yorkshire.

    I hope you manage to get to the bottom of the problem soon.

    Kind regards

    Mark
    thomsonlocal.com

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  • David Whitehouse 836 days ago

    Thanks Mark, much appreciated.

    We think it may have been caused by the site above mentioned by Jon – I’ve updated the post.

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  • Jon 821 days ago

    http://www.seoconsult.com/

    Looks like the problem got sorted, congrats. But the page I mentioned still shows the old address so what happened?

    Manual intervention because of this blog?

    Jon

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    • David Whitehouse 821 days ago

      No Jon, I just reported it via the normal methods – Google are quite responsive these days.

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  • Ismael 793 days ago

    http://Www.yellowcabdalycity.com

    I have the same problem with competitor phone number and pics show in my google places listing. What I don’t understand is that when I go to edit my business listing it has the correct information is there. But when I go back to search for my listing I see the correct business address and correct website tho the phone number is still wrong and pics are wrong… I feel that this is hack by my competitor. Any ideas on how to fix this problem????

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