Google and Shoemoney

03.09.07

Matt it’s not a I hate Google post honest !! ,,

Is there anything thing that can be done to help Shoemoney’s blog out, normally I would just use RSS or the search function on Shoemoney’s site, but Dave Dellanave was saying how everything he posted on shoemoney.com never ranked in Google but scraper sites and sites that linked to the blog posts did rank !..

example :

shoemoney dmoz extortion
shoemoney “adsense check”

so what should Shoemoney do ?

a) Reinclusion Request
b) email Matt Cutts
c) 301 all the old pages to a new domain

DaveN

18 Comments

  • 1

    Personally, I would email Matt Cutts, but he would just tell me to make a reinclusion request I assume.

    Good question.

    Dan Root
    http://www.danroot.net

    3rd September 2007 @ 14:14

  • 2

    “everything he posted on shoemoney.com never ranked in Google”

    d) check your preferences for googles new bullshit filter ;)

    paulh
    http://www.assertica.co.uk

    3rd September 2007 @ 14:32

  • 3

    Dave,

    There’s a lot of other people asking the same question. Why Google continues to rank scraper pages over the original content producer is beyond me, but I’ll bet the answer is that Google is simply being eaten alive by scrapers and CAN’T do anything about it. I see scraper backlinks in Webmaster Tools and I used to think that it was an anomoly, but now it’s becoming obvious that Google doesn’t have the ability to identify scrapers for what they are.

    RufusDufus

    3rd September 2007 @ 14:48

  • 4

    maybe the search engines have had enough of his bullshit link baiting and lies, you don’t have to search very far to find things like this
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=150377&postcount=41

    with further detail on why he was removed from domoz here
    http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/16655-shoemoney-dmoz-linkbait.html

    check the date of his post on DP and the date Jim Noble has on the Dmoz “don’t list message” yet shoemoney says he was asked for a bribe, personally I would trust Jim Noble

    its just utter shite what this man posts on his blog to get a following of people to post replies so why would google want to list it in the first place

    mick g
    http://www.192directory.co.uk

    3rd September 2007 @ 15:13

  • 5

    Hey mick thats all old news. as you can see on phillips blog and like 20 others I said I did pay to have sites listed in dmoz.

    BTW your still my favorite stalker ;)

    ShoeMoney
    http://www.shoemoney.com

    3rd September 2007 @ 22:44

  • 6

    thank you for your kind words Jeremy ;)

    mick g
    http://www.192directory.co.uk

    3rd September 2007 @ 23:46

  • 7

    Ha, now this post is on the first page for shoemoney “adsense check”.

    Aaron

    4th September 2007 @ 03:02

  • 8

    I think one of the title’s of shoemoney’s front page says it best “I’m just living the dream” and indeed he is man and without any love from google. I say who cares if the nuke his site all together as he doesn’t need google traffic for his blog at all. Not only that, the more they poke him the madder he will get and the more of google dirty laundry he will expose and “THAT” Mr. Naylor is priceless.

    teeceo
    http://blog.omsolutions.net

    4th September 2007 @ 06:04

  • 9

    Dave, since Google algorithm recently started discounting all the links gained to a Website through a link exchange it has become a real bitch getting Google organic search hits.

    I had one link exchange page that has 30 links that I exchanged over the past 7 years, and Google deindexed it.

    So besides getting natural links to your site from phpBB and Vbulletin and links from your own Websites it is a night mare.

    But this is the new Google so I doubt anyone can do anything about it. Even paying to get your link in an industry directory may not be worth while anymore. I would do some searches in Google on the page were your link is going to be placed…

    I wish Google would abide by its own GWQG and ban the MFA proxy Websites…untill it does it is double standards!

    Igor The Troll

    4th September 2007 @ 10:11

  • 10

    I thought everyone new that you have to have your own scraper site to scrap your non-scraped site and redirect the scraped sites traffic to the non-scraped site. All that other stuff seems like a whole lot of work for nothing. ;)

    Farmer

    4th September 2007 @ 22:06

  • 11

    Ah crap…i did the new thing instead of knew and now I spell like shoe. :p

    Farmer

    4th September 2007 @ 22:06

  • 12

    Do you know in the Dmoz editor forum the editors are all harping on about AOL legal getting involved with Shoe’s corruption claim?

    Can’t see AOL even noticing though, doubt they know Dmoz still exists.

    Jake Cop
    http://www.mrdaz.com

    5th September 2007 @ 09:22

  • 13

    [...] read the post on David’s blog about what Jeremy should do about his poor rankings, although i like to portray that theres hope in every case but here i [...]

    Shoemoney - The authority not working out so well. [blacksheep case]

    5th September 2007 @ 09:40

  • 14

    Get a wig:0

    flypitcher
    http://www.canvastown.com

    5th September 2007 @ 22:06

  • 15

    I was always under the impression that Shoe didn’t care much for SEO - maybe it isn’t a good use of his time? :)
    … though, I’d imagine having his pages in Google would amount to a higher RSS readership along with advertising revenues.

    Paul Bradish
    http://www.epursuit.net/blog/

    6th September 2007 @ 21:41

  • 16

    I read Shoemoney’s blog at least two to three times a day, and comment very frequently, but ever since I got on the “top commentators” portion of his site [Followed link on pr6 homepage, and sidewide as well], my site (Wordhugger.com) disappeared from Google for the anchor “word hugger.”

    Since people say Shoemoney’s blog is penalized from Google, do you think that it is actually ’sharing the penalty’, or is it just bad timing/luck, and the Google results are temporary?

    PS: The site is under a month old, and has zero competition for the keyword in which that anchor is used, and was ranked #1 since day one, up until these last few days. The site (being that it is new), has very few links (Under 100 I would assume), and is 100% whitehat seo. If anyone has any opinion/idea on what happened to my site, or suggestions to fix it, I would love to hear it.

    Word Hugger
    http://www.wordhugger.com

    9th September 2007 @ 05:54

  • 17

    Forget my last post, sorry.

    Word Hugger
    http://www.wordhugger.com

    9th September 2007 @ 23:13

  • 18

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    Dellanave » Google Dupe Content Still Hosed

    29th October 2007 @ 08:26

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