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A thread a SEW started by Dave Hawley asked the question…

Do forum signatures really help with Google ranking?

Well my spin on this is it does, same as Blogs, Guestbooks etc etc… But not very much, the more I look at Google the more I see Themed links working…
If site A has 100 backlinks about PHP and is a site about PHP a link from that site will weigh heavily from PHP related terms like “programming”, if you run your search terms via a ontology script you get other terms like:
Search Term: Blue Tomatoes tomatoes
blue
blue tomatoes
blues
potatoes
tomatoes
peppers
tomato’s
tomato
carrots
vegetables
So a good “Blues Tomatoes” link should be coming from a themed site which has one of the keywords from the above list, so by default if you linked to a Viagra site the link should weigh a lot less… if that makes any sense… of course if 110,000 non themed links say “Blue Tomatoes” but that’s a different story all together…
DaveN

9 Comments

  • JasonD 3075 days ago

    http://www.strangelogic.com

    I agree with you on this one and also say that if you were to use Blogs, forums or other sites where you can enter text, whether in a manual or automated manner that understanding the theme of a page is important.

    If you were to manually add value to a discussion on a forum or blog it is simple for us human’s to understand the theme you detailed above but extremely difficult for an automated posting tool to do so.

    You’d probably have to build a search and analysis engine the size of a major search engine to be able to rank page themes in an automated manner or a general low level analysis could be based on page titles minus stop words ?

    It may also come down to the shotgun -v- rifle approach. If you get enough links on EVERY theme then some of them will stick on the theme you want. There are of course down sides to that as well!

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  • SEO Book.com 3075 days ago

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  • Kimspitstop.dk 3075 days ago

    Know wich keyword provide the best return

    Is it wise only to reley on traffic from the searchingines, or should you use all kind of option’s.

    What can we expect from the different technic’s

    O,5 – 1,5% banner clickthrue
    1,2 – 2,5 newsletter
    1,5% TV spots
    1,9% from your own 404 error page
    4,4% Advertising write article
    3 – 5% PPC Google adwords
    15 – 20% Word of mouth
    20% various surfing
    45% Search Ingines

    Personaly I prefer the Search Ingines,
    because keyword research make sense and better ROI and I think you have some sort of control.

    Yes, we all know that backlink’s is important toward “Google Rank” but it’s take hour’s of valuable time to build a safe link structure.

    On the other hand if you need to some how pay for “targeted traffic” what is the price and do you gain the best ROI or get ripped off.

    My conclution is that “Word of Mouth” and turning words into traffic is the best free ride you ever get.

    Know which keyword provide the best return because keyword research make sense if you wanna have more targeted traffic and better web site ROI

    edited By DaveN ;) nice try thou with the old Affialte link

    I like Jeff Alderson’s stuff the Affialte link went to http://www.keywordequalizer.com/

    Kind Regards
    KAH

    No cheers DaveN ;)

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  • Kimspitstop.dk 3075 days ago

    http://www.kimspitstop.dk

    DaveN

    Quote:
    Post whatever you want. We don’t care

    Ok. Dave I understand your point, there is a limit :O)

    Anyway the keyword was themed links
    and that’s make sense. …

    So far I know “one way link” is the best
    link you can get and if they are themed,
    It’s even better. …

    Building a solid link structure is a hard job, but worth it’, if it last.

    Dave I give you a backlink from my blog
    and if you see a metaname.blogspot link in your logfile/stat, It’s me. …

    Happy New Year
    KAH

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  • Google Site Flavor ..Themes?
    What flavor does Google think your site is?

  • Google Site Flavor ..Themes?
    What flavor does Google think your site is?

  • Threadwatch.org 3056 days ago

    Google Flavors
    n/a

  • werty 3056 days ago

    werty

    Hey Dave, Interesting…here is the list that google gave me when I checked what they are considering matches for blue tomatoes

    Blue
    Tomatoes
    blu
    potatoes
    vegetables
    bleu

    Blue Tomato
    Blue
    pasta (not sure how they get this)
    blu
    bleu
    eggplant
    salad
    vegetable
    cucumber

    So it seems like links from anything on those topics would also be counted as themed…pretty crazy stuff.

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  • nj 3056 days ago

    [quote]pasta (not sure how they get this)[/quote]

    Think about how many recipe pages containing pasta (large %age of italian food) also have tomatoes listed nearby, etc, etc

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